tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post1215786110130865291..comments2024-03-02T07:39:03.908+02:00Comments on Monty says: Oracle adding close source extensions to MySQLMontyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-65577729438578330982013-03-14T08:55:59.878+02:002013-03-14T08:55:59.878+02:00I just several months ago that MYSQL recently owne...I just several months ago that MYSQL recently owned by Oracle. That's a nightmare for opensource loversBuy Adiphene Onlinehttp://buyadipheneonline.webs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-2259438447955306412011-11-01T18:27:22.636+02:002011-11-01T18:27:22.636+02:00High time for: http://fossforce.com/2011/09/will-o...High time for: http://fossforce.com/2011/09/will-oracle-turn-mysql-into-crippleware/gsteensshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00387238619634399446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-31017452310754846942011-10-16T10:53:11.917+03:002011-10-16T10:53:11.917+03:00About: "Cleanup and make the MariaDB site loo...About: "Cleanup and make the MariaDB site look better"<br /><br />Which site are you referring to:<br />* <a href="http://mariad.borg" rel="nofollow">mariadb.org</a> ? This is just a landing page to direct to the different sites that is involved with that MariaDB project.<br />* <a href="http://askmonty.org" rel="nofollow">askmonty.org</a>? This is an effort to document and communicate about all things related to MariaDB & MySQL.<br />* <a href="http://montyprogram.com" rel="nofollow">Monty Program Ab</a>? This is where my company provides services around MySQL and MariaDB.<br /><br />The two first sites are community sites and the look and feel of them<br />are largely decided upon the help MariaDB gets from that community.<br />They are optimized for users and developers, not for the commercial<br />decision makers. For this we have <a href="http://montyprogram.com" rel="nofollow">Monty Program Ab</a> or partners like <a href="http://skysql.com" rel="nofollow">SkySql</a>Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-46194362369347437852011-10-09T16:33:32.010+03:002011-10-09T16:33:32.010+03:00Biggest appreciation for your work, from just anot...Biggest appreciation for your work, from just another open source enthusiast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-56938488715312251532011-10-06T08:30:24.670+03:002011-10-06T08:30:24.670+03:00Cleanup and make the MariaDB site look better, if ...Cleanup and make the MariaDB site look better, if it looks more professional its easier to convince the managers to accept it, the site looks horrible and very amateur this reflects badly on the softwareAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-4107353656237855612011-09-26T16:57:50.957+03:002011-09-26T16:57:50.957+03:00I knew this was coming, how long Oracle can give y...I knew this was coming, how long Oracle can give you free things that not in there nature , I am afraid if they do the same with Java. These are the technology adopted by millions because of open-source and now if they made it license, lock the code than who knows.Javin Paulhttp://javarevisited.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-40593017650001092592011-09-26T13:17:14.421+03:002011-09-26T13:17:14.421+03:00To Blackhand:
The OpenDatabase alliance was forme...To Blackhand:<br /><br />The OpenDatabase alliance was formed to bring all open source databases under one common organization that could work promoting and drive business for all of us. This has been on hold mainly because we have not yet found a person to drive this organization full time. Without a driver it can't have a notable impact.<br /><br />The collaboration between Drizzle, Percona and MariaDB has not been as active as we would have hoped for, mainly because no one of us have had free resources available to work on active collaboration. MariaDB has most of the code in Percona and Percona has taken some patches from MariaDB. MariaDB has friendly talks with people from Drizzle who keep us up to date with the changes that happens in Drizzle that may be of interest in MariaDB.Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-22977039071717067712011-09-26T13:14:58.230+03:002011-09-26T13:14:58.230+03:00To Anonymous about GNU readline
The GNU readline ...To Anonymous about GNU readline<br /><br />The GNU readline library had no affect on our decision of making MySQL GPL and we never had any plans of making MySQL proprietary.<br /><br />MySQL was from the start intended to be free software and all code should be always available to everyone. In the first few years (this was before Open Source) we had a shareware license (to bootstrap the company) that said that you could use MySQL freely but if you made money of it you should kick something back to us. In 1999 we changed MySQL to be under the GPL license as we now could afford to do it.<br /><br />We did ensure that we had full ownership of the MySQL server code base to be able to do dual licensing of the server. This was needed to be able to hire developers to work full time on the code base. In effect those who wanted to use MySQL, but where not comfortable with making their code free, paid for the development of the code base everyone was using. A good deal for everyone.Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-29965053368550214122011-09-26T06:09:18.430+03:002011-09-26T06:09:18.430+03:00my bet goes on that we will see soon™ LibreSQL :)my bet goes on that we will see soon™ LibreSQL :)Dwardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107969724755475805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-44919521877257447952011-09-24T00:39:08.588+03:002011-09-24T00:39:08.588+03:00Was not OpenDatabase Alliance funded for this purp...Was not OpenDatabase Alliance funded for this purpose ?<br /><br />what is the collaboration status between Drizzle devs, Percona, MariaDB, ... i think that this new change from Oracle affect ALL this ecosystem too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-88391710796615612822011-09-23T22:17:37.152+03:002011-09-23T22:17:37.152+03:00Monty,
The story I seem to remember reading was ...Monty,<br /> The story I seem to remember reading was that you originally wanted to make MySQL proprietary, but only opened it up so you could use GNU readline in the client? What was the actual decision process?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-64807232142702906302011-09-23T01:45:21.004+03:002011-09-23T01:45:21.004+03:00To Amir Hooshangi.
I have in my earlier blog post...To Amir Hooshangi.<br /><br />I have in my <a href="http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/04/to-be-free-or-not-to-be-free.html" rel="nofollow">earlier blog posts</a> tried to explain how and why MySQL got sold. See the comments in the above link!<br /><br />The short answer is that in 2001 we took in investors to get more money to put into developing MySQL further. This enabled us to add all the features you can find in MySQL 4.0 -> 5.1.<br /><br />What we, the founders of MySQL, lost was the ability to control MySQL future after it would be sold (investors always gets the right to sell the company sooner or later). We could in some regard control who would buy it, but not what they buyer would do after the deal would be done.<br /><br />I was very happy with having Sun as a buyer, but could not predict what happened later.<br /><br />I am however doing my share now to ensure that MySQL, under the name of <a href="http://kb.askmonty.org/en/about-mariadb" rel="nofollow">MariaDB</a>, will survive independently of what Oracle does to MySQL.Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-52479386904179547812011-09-23T01:40:21.766+03:002011-09-23T01:40:21.766+03:00To Flakerim Ismani:
MariaDB is already a binary c...To Flakerim Ismani:<br /><br />MariaDB is already a binary compatible and enhanced fork of MySQL, so that part is already done. We are now working on open source versions of all the features that Oracle has in their closed source version of MySQL and we will release these shortly in MariaDB 5.5Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-7067185308577051322011-09-22T17:31:04.808+03:002011-09-22T17:31:04.808+03:00Monty, as i read your posts often, i see you mostl...Monty, as i read your posts often, i see you mostly have sided free software but got no clue why you sold the Mysql if your model was right ? in fact if it was going well why didn't you continued it ?Amir Hooshangihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816159827394464681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-3637291864972902582011-09-22T00:48:38.880+03:002011-09-22T00:48:38.880+03:00Can we (you) fork it?Can we (you) fork it?Flakerim Ismanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04775858000191558730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-24383536687971432632011-09-20T21:41:22.596+03:002011-09-20T21:41:22.596+03:00Great post MontyGreat post MontyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-44144572006900788572011-09-20T19:42:33.135+03:002011-09-20T19:42:33.135+03:00lsmith: The problem is that we cannot know what co...lsmith: The problem is that we cannot know what code the now released feature is based on, since - you know - it is closed source...<br /><br />henrikhingohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09201666166374161923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-53558370765884241662011-09-20T11:14:15.998+03:002011-09-20T11:14:15.998+03:00To TomKro:
Monty Program Ab contributed the plugga...To TomKro:<br />Monty Program Ab contributed the pluggable authentication interface to MySQL. This interface makes it possible to easily add new authentication modules, like PAM, to MySQL. Monty Program Ab didn't contribute a PAM module and we don't have one in MariaDB (yet).Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-5849104940085380652011-09-20T11:12:17.130+03:002011-09-20T11:12:17.130+03:00To Ashwin:
MariaDB is full open source alternative...To Ashwin:<br />MariaDB is full open source alternative with MySQL. It's also binary compatible drop in replacement. All old MySQL connectors will work with MariaDB and the data in disk is also identical.Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-76615795365122486842011-09-20T11:10:30.354+03:002011-09-20T11:10:30.354+03:00To Ismith:
I left out references to keep things sh...To Ismith:<br />I left out references to keep things short.<br /><br />The main point was only that the thread pool was something that was contributed to be part of the open source version of MySQL and not it's not anymore. That part of the code is newly written doesn't change this fact.Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-19902822359160889902011-09-19T20:58:03.877+03:002011-09-19T20:58:03.877+03:00Monty, If Monty Program AB contributed PAM authent...Monty, If Monty Program AB contributed PAM authentication to MySQL, why would it not be in MariaDB?TomKrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08025234287373180805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-53129138843199141052011-09-19T20:43:07.445+03:002011-09-19T20:43:07.445+03:00Davi: Thanks for suggesting some corrections to th...Davi: Thanks for suggesting some corrections to the blog post to make things more accurate. I have now updated the blog accordingly.Montyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06049512911785594864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-5346209721325790092011-09-19T20:40:15.045+03:002011-09-19T20:40:15.045+03:00its time to find promising open source alternative...its time to find promising open source alternative to mysql. i work on python, django and i find no drivers, support for mariadb. need to wait till there are drivers to all languages, opensource projects, tools like mysql workbench.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15176628654332650252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-5792974914608113022011-09-19T20:20:09.196+03:002011-09-19T20:20:09.196+03:00Monty your points on the open source benefits lost...Monty your points on the open source benefits lost are sufficient to bring home your point. Pointing out that the idea came from Ebay is helpful in understanding exactly that.<br /><br />Speculating on what the code today's version is based on and what MySQL version it was included in without references only hurts your argument though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5552895785228669482.post-217271379454309142011-09-19T20:09:03.900+03:002011-09-19T20:09:03.900+03:00Yes, it uses the scheduler API. Yet, when "th...Yes, it uses the scheduler API. Yet, when "thread pool" is mentioned, it refers to the actual implementation that uses this interface.Davinoreply@blogger.com